The FTX Contagion with Jesse Powell
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Jesse Powell is the co-founder and Chairman of Kraken. In this interview, we discuss the rising anger over the FTX collapse, parallels with Mt. Gox, FTX’s exploitation of regulatory arbitrage, odd mainstream media reactions, proof of reserves and the future of custodial services.
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FTX has caused untold damage. There could be over 1 million creditors, from large institutions to small retail investors. There are going to be numerous heartbreaking stories of people getting rekt. But, the most significant damage caused by this criminality could be ahead of us. There is a significant risk that a misreading of the causes of this crisis will lead to regulatory damage removing access to Satoshi’s innovation for future generations.
There are many within the industry who were deeply sceptical of FTX and Sam-Bankman-Fried well before the event of the past few weeks played out. The pace of growth, the scale of revenue, and the huge expenditure. To those in the know, none of it made sense unless FTX was involved in nefarious activities. And yet, SBF was rubbing shoulders with DC politicians whilst shaping the laws to be applied to the industry.
In short order, the whole facade has come crumbling down. Stories of drug taking, polyamory, and excess within the criminal empire have emerged, confessions have been made that the effective altruism promotion was a sham, and then SBF engaged in a bizarre media campaign via Twitter. FTX’s new CEO brought in to organise its bankruptcy process stated in his 40 years of restructuring companies (including Enron) he’s never seen anything as bad as this.
So, in the face of this obvious narcissistic and incompetent criminality, why have there been a number of puff pieces in the media? Why did DC take the warnings that were made seriously? And how is it justified for politicians to threaten a sweeping global legal framework for Bitcoin and crypto? Strange things are happening, and forces are being aligned against all of us. And yet, we know the community is resilient. This could take years to play out.
00:01:51: Introductions
00:03:49: Fallout from Mt. Gox
00:07:36: FTX - initial suspicions and lack of investor due diligence
00:14:13: Anger at FTX and consequences for the market
00:20:01: Was the FTX collapse avoidable?
00:27:45: FTX organisation chart, and conspiracy theories
00:33:10: Regulation, and SBF on side with The New York Times
00:44:24: FTX not an indictment of crypto
00:48:38: Bitcoin-only exchanges, and Bitcoin and crypto uniting to fight DC
00:54:18: Proof of reserves
00:59:17: Future of custodial services
01:02:28: Hack attacks, insurance and security for exchanges
01:06:37: Future contagion for the crypto marketplace
01:14:12: Final comments
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Mentioned in the interview:
Bernie Madoff: Who He Was, How His Ponzi Scheme Worked - Investopedia, Sep 8th 2022
D.C. turf war opens crypto regulatory arbitrage - Reuters, Aug 18th 2022
This Is What Happens When Tech Executives Start Believing Their Own Hype - NY Times, Jun 28th 2022
What Is Proof of Reserves and Can It Build Back Trust? - The Block, Nov 15th 2022
FTX hacker dumps 50,000 ETH, still among top 40 Ether holders - Cointelegraph, Nov 21st 2022
“We know the [identity] of this account.” -Nick Percoco on Twitter Nov 12th 2022
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