The Economics of War with Alex Gladstein
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Location: San Francisco
Date: Monday 7th February
Project: Human Rights Foundation
Role: Chief Strategy Officer
The majority of citizens of developed countries are blind to the true cost of modern warfare. Wars are fought in far off lands by technically advanced and voluntary armies; few people have direct or indirect exposure to first-hand experiences. Media coverage is sanitized of the associated brutality. And politicians willfully talk up the benefits of such wars with patriotic vigour.
Yet, the cold hard truth is extensive and vicious wars are being fought in our name. The costs of such wars are counted in thousands of faceless lives, and trillions of dollars of debt to be paid by future generations. That such wars have vague and shifting missions, or, are predicated on falsehoods, seems to be of little consequence. Citizens mostly tend to shrug their shoulders.
Large anti-war protests are still evident on occasions, most obviously at the moment in relation to the Russia-Ukrainian conflict, and previously in the lead up to the Iraq war. But, such protests are peaceful, sporadic, and ineffective. Wars still get fought. Aside from ethical discomfort, the costs to the majority not fighting the wars are limited.
That citizens don’t personally shoulder the costs of war is why politicians still feel empowered to engage in such actions, or, more importantly, to stay engaged in wars they did not start. It is why democratic peace theory has broken. There are multiple causes, but the fiat monetary system is a principal area of concern, enabling the financial burden to be offloaded to future generations.
Bitcoin doesn’t fix war. But, in a Bitcoin standard world, it would certainly make it harder to fight wars without citizens feeling the fiscal impacts. Ergo, citizens would have a greater interest in demanding a say.
In this interview, I talk to Alex Gladstein, Chief Strategy Officer at the Human Rights Foundation. We discuss how the fiat monetary system has broken democratic peace theory, why MMT enables forever wars, how Bitcoin could reduce unnecessary wars, and the need to discuss this more honestly within society.
00:04:18: Introductions
00:08:30: Credit card wars
00:14:14: A changing history of financing wars
00:16:47: Bond buyer of last resort
00:21:54: The will of the people should decide
00:24:15: The process beyond government war spend
00:26:26: Future negative impacts of current war debt
00:31:31: Incentives for entering into forever wars
00:34:57: Military build-ups linked to financial crises
00:38:56: MMT and forever wars
00:48:06: A Bitcoin standard reduces unnecessary wars
00:54:27: Some figures surrounding war debt
00:59:01: Bitcoin fixes a key flaw in democracy
01:03:19: People care more about entitlements than wars
01:12:56: The future of Bitcoin nation state adoption
01:17:01: There should be more dialogue on the cost of war
01:20:26: Final comments
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Mentioned in the interview:
Taxing Wars: The American Way of War Finance and the Decline of Democracy - Sarah Kreps
The Credit Card Wars: Post-9/11 War Funding Policy in Historical Perspective - Linda J. Bilmes, Harvard University, Statement in Congressional Briefing, Nov 2017
FINANCIAL CRISIS [Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission] - GovInfo.gov
The Deficit Myth: Modern Monetary Theory and How to Build a Better Economy - Stephanie Kelton
The Lords of Easy Money: How the Federal Reserve Broke the American Economy - Christopher Leonard
“The Fed nationalised the US corporate bond market by backstopping all bonds” - Arthur Hayes
The Actual Impact Of Bitcoin On War - Matthew Pines, Bitcoin Magazine
Donald Trump tells Nato allies to spend 4% of GDP on defence - The Guardian Jul 2018
Stigum's Money Market, 4E (PROFESSIONAL FINANCE & INVESTM) - Marcia Stigum
Alexis de Tocqueville rightly notes that democratic armies crave war
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