Defending Bitcoin in DC with David Zell
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David Zell is a co-founder of the Bitcoin Policy Institute and Director of Policy at BTC Inc. In this interview, we discuss how the Bitcoin Policy Institute engages to educate politicians in DC through combating FUD, distinguishing Bitcoin from crypto, and aligning Bitcoin with US National Security interests and American values.
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Bitcoin was developed on the shoulders of the cypherpunks building new forms of money outside of government control and oversight. Permission was not sought, as permission would not have been granted. Government actively disrupted the cypherpunk vision, seeking to destroy it. Bitcoin’s emergence was therefore antithetical to the concerns and endorsement of decision-makers.
But, some believe that the initial battle has been won. Bitcoin is now 14 years old. It has spread to all corners of the globe, and radically changed the mindset of those who have interacted with it. This includes some of those in the corridors of power, who have been won over by its ideology and technical resilience. The question now is how Bitcoin development continues.
Bitcoin could continue to evolve without seeking to engage with the levers of the state. Experience suggests that this would marginalise Bitcoin and Bitcoiners within the US. In the meantime, other protocols and blockchains would continue to curry favour with lawmakers and mould the regulatory framework to their needs. Who would win in this situation?
Or, through advocacy and education and cooperation with those in DC, Bitcoin could be allowed to develop openly within the United States. Much like the internet, the risks posed by this new innovation wouldn’t be allowed to throttle the huge benefits it has to offer both individuals and society.
In a grand scenario, Bitcoin could allow the United States to continue to compete for hegemonic power whilst continuing to champion individual freedom and sovereignty. This is a huge prize. Perhaps the biggest prize. This is why there are people willing to put in the hard graft to develop and nurture bodies like the Bitcoin Policy Institute. The future owes them gratitude.
00:01:15: Introductions, and ChatGPT
00:07:41: Peter's trading history, and the bear market
00:13:08: The Bitcoin Policy Institute, and debating
00:26:17: BPI goals and wins, and the CIA
00:38:43: Lobbyists vs thinktanks
00:45:31: Separating Bitcoin from crypto, and the FTX fallout
00:51:49: Value of educating politicians, and self-custody risks
01:10:56: BPI's core thesis, privacy and the US Constitution
01:21:46: BPI in 2023, and playing chess
01:32:39: Final comments
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Mentioned in the interview:
Experience: I made $1m on bitcoin – and lost it again - The Guardian, Jan 2019
Why You Shouldn’t Buy Bitcoin - Peter McCormack, Real Bedford, 2022
Coin Center - The leading non-profit focused on the policy issues facing cryptocurrencies
Bitcoin and US National Security - Matthew Pines, Bitcoin Policy Institute, Jan 2021
Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia
Microsoft to challenge Google by integrating ChatGPT with Bing search - The Verge, Jan 4th 2023
My Big, Surprisingly Fun Night at a Manhattan Bitcoin Bar [Pubkey] - Eater NY, Dec 13th 2022
Chess Tournaments, Tech Giants And $100,000 In Bitcoin - David Zell, Bitcoin Magazine, Jun 2021
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