Bitcoin in El Salvador - Part 2 with Nayib Bukele

 
 

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“I don’t think it’s going to work, I’m sure it’s going to work. Because the fundamentals are there. We can have some bumps in the road like everything… but, the fundamentals are the same. And it’s going to work because the philosophy of it is right. Just give it time. It’s going to work for El Salvador, it’s going to work for Bitcoin, it’s going to work for the world.”
— Nayib Bukele

SHOW DESCRIPTION

The full interview with President Nayib Bukele, undertaken days after the Bitcoin Law became effective on September 7th 2021, sections of which were included in my film “Follow The Money #1 - Bitcoin in El Salvador”. In this interview, we discuss motivation, opposition and legacy. 

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A few days following Bitcoin being given legal status, I was granted an exclusive access interview with President Bukele for the purposes of my film “Follow The Money #1 - Bitcoin in El Salvador”. Following the release of the film, it is time to publish the full interview. 

It has been over 8 months since El Salvador became the first country in the world to make Bitcoin legal tender. A lot has been written about El Salvador’s Bitcoin Law, and a lot has happened since. But what was it like to be at the centre of this unprecedented event? An event that could change not just El Salvador’s future, but also Bitcoin’s and the rest of the world. 

The discussion covers President Bukele’s enthusiasm for what Bitcoin can do for his country and his people; the incredible timescale within which the law was passed (it was a mere 3 months from being enacted to becoming law); the strategy behind the country’s purchases of Bitcoin; internal and external opposition; and the plan behind the articles of the Bitcoin Law. 

As background noise to all these changes is vocal concerns about authoritarian actions Bukele is taking; he has removed judges, influenced a change in the constitution to enable a potential second term, had troops enter parliament, and implemented stern policies aimed at reducing gang violence. The term “dictator” is banded around. 

Nevertheless, he is an extremely popular president: he has an approval rating of 85%. Many citizens, sick of the years of violence and corruption, are pleased to finally see a decisive Salvadoran President. Could he become a beacon for the wider region? Could he be the leader of the Bitcoin age?

TIMESTAMPS

00:04:01: Introductions
00:07:22: Transaction fees
00:10:59: Big corporations accepting Bitcoin globally
00:13:37: The critics wanting El Salvador to fail
00:18:22: The variables with which to measure success
00:25:20: El Salvador Government buying Bitcoin
00:30:35: Reputational risk, internal opposition and protests
00:43:16: The President's legacy
00:53:35: Article 7 of the Bitcoin Law
00:57:53: Multiple terms in office and the question of dictatorships
01:03:24: Cleaning house, corruption and crime
01:12:05: Gender equality in El Salvador
01:17:21: Last words from the President on Bitcoin
01:21:32: Final comments

 

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